From gomory@auriga.ta3.sk Wed Mar 28 06:47:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from auriga.ta3.sk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2S6lrAL020242 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:47:53 GMT Received: (from gomory@localhost) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l2S6lrtj020241 for choc; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:47:53 GMT From: Peter Gomory Message-Id: <200703280647.l2S6lrtj020241@auriga.ta3.sk> Subject: Re: [sot_co:00366] Details about program 25 for the SOHO+HINODE April 2007 campaign (sot_co:) (fwd) To: choc@auriga.ta3.sk (Jan Rybak) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:47:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.1, clamav-milter version 0.90.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: RO >From berger@lmsal.com Wed Mar 28 02:30:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 Received: from lmsal.com (mail.lmsal.com [198.116.7.6]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2S2Tg6S030038 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:30:33 GMT Received: from [198.116.7.148] (account berger HELO [192.168.1.104]) by lmsal.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.11) with ESMTPA id 6346280; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:29:41 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4609C632.5080306@nao.ac.jp> References: <7.0.0.16.2.20070221162248.04f7f0f0@nao.ac.jp> <4609C632.5080306@nao.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9FF1E156-988B-4B8F-8A14-260D310D6865@lmsal.com> Cc: sot_co@plain.isas.jaxa.jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas Berger Subject: Re: [sot_co:00366] Details about program 25 for the SOHO+HINODE April 2007 campaign (sot_co:) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:28:18 -0700 To: gomory@astro.sk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.1, clamav-milter version 0.90.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Peter, SOT is planning on supporting all of the SOHO/SUMER campaigns during April so consider your program scheduled in week 15. The exact times of observation will presumably be relayed sometime closer to week 15. Regarding your request for SOT observations, please note that the high cadence and FOV that you request can only be sustained for about an hour due to on-board memory and telemetry restrictions. So in an optimal 7 hour period we may be able to run two high-cadence programs of about 1 hour duration each but no more than that. The FOV you request will be a 1kx2k pixel readout resulting in an exact FOV of 54" x 109" - I trust you won't miss those extra 6 arcseconds. If you have any other requests for coordination with SOT please email either myself or Takashi Sekii, the SOT science scheduling coordinators. Cheers, Tom Berger berger@lmsal.com Takashi Sekii sekii@solar.mtk.nao.ac.jp On Mar 27, 2007, at 6:34 PM, Jan Jurcak wrote: > Hello, > > I am just forwarding the e-mail from Peter Gomory who had problems > with sending it directly to the sot_co. > > Regards, Jan > > ********************************************************************** > ********* > > Dear SOT planners, > > we have already applied for the observing time in a frame of the > joint observing campaign of the SOHO/SUMER and HINODE/EIS > spectrometers > following suggestion of the SUMER PI Werner Curdt. This program was > included to the SOHO+HINODE April 2007 campaign (program 25) > scheduled for week 15. > For our scientific goals it would be great if we can get also > support of the SOT instrument. > > Our main aim is to study upper parts of the solar atmosphere (i.e. > chromosphere, transition region and corona) in order to identify > the most probable physical mechanism responsible for the heating of > the solar corona localized particularly in/above chromospheric > network. The detailed scientific justification of our observing > program and the description of the SUMER and EIS observing details > can be found at http://www.mps.mpg.de/homes/curdt/hinode/ > HINODE_cases.html > (observing program nr. 25). > The main argument to try to acquire also SOT data for this program > is that the filtergrams taken in G-band and blue continuum should > enable us to analyze footpoints of the magnetic field > concentrations. These magnetic elements, visible as the > photospheric bright points concentrated in the network, are > considered to be the prime candidate for drivers of the coronal > heating mechanisms (Muller at al., A&A 283, 232). > Moreover, time series of the SOT filtergrams taken in the Ca II H > spectral line will provide additional information about behaviour > of waves in the chromosphere and they will allow better > identification of the coronal heating mechanism. > > Therefore, SOT measurements will definitely improve the quality and > complexity of our observing campaign. We add here technical details > for > possible SOT support of our program. > SOT observing details (Broad Filter Imager): > -------------------------------------------- > - FOV: 60" x 109" > - spectral channels: G-band, Ca II H, blue continuum > (sequentially in time if > possible, if only one channel could be > selected then G-band channel is preferred) > - cadence of a set of these 3 channels: 10-15 sec > - total run duration: minimum: ~3.5 hours > optimum: ~7.0 hours > - no compensation of the solar rotation > - target: quiet Sun near disk center with the SUMER 1D slit in the > center > of the SOT FOV > - pointing: specified via e-mail a day in advance > > We would be very obliged if the SOT will be able to support > our program with this type of observations. Therefore we > would be obliged to hear from you whether this is realistic > in frame of the SOHO+HINODE campaign scheduled for April > 2007 (week 15 in our case). > > With best wishes and many thanks beforehand > > Peter Gomory, coordinator of the SOHO/HINODE April 2007 program 25 > > Tatranska Lomnica, 26/03/2007 > > ********************************************************************** > **** > * Peter Gomory tel. : ++421 52 7879 166 (111 > secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 > 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : > gomory@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/ > ~gomory * > * Slovak > Republic * > ********************************************************************** > **** > > From berger@lmsal.com Tue May 22 19:10:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from lmsal.com (mail.lmsal.com [198.116.7.6]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4MJ9U40029441 for ; Tue, 22 May 2007 19:10:21 GMT Received: from [71.198.96.163] (account berger HELO [192.168.1.74]) by lmsal.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.11) with ESMTPA id 6680513 for choc@ta3.sk; Tue, 22 May 2007 12:09:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <200705221223.l4MCNDTx022289@auriga.ta3.sk> References: <200705221223.l4MCNDTx022289@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--309785633 Message-Id: From: Thomas Berger Subject: Re: SOT: request for suggestions Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:07:57 -0700 To: Jan Rybak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.2, clamav-milter version 0.90.2 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 Status: ROr --Apple-Mail-9--309785633 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Dear Jan, Your calculations are basically correct - it is difficult to run the SOT in uncompressed mode due to data rate restrictions. Instead, we have been running with 2-3 bit JPEG compression with very good results. This allows a 1k x 2k FOV at 1x1 pixel resolution (ie. unsummed camera output) to run at 60 seconds cadence for several hours. Perhaps not as long as five hours as that depends somewhat on the telemetry pass schedule. Also, if you can tolerate 2x2 summing (0.108" pixels in the BFI) you can definitely get 5 hours of uninterrupted observations at 1k x 2k FOV. Actually in this case we'd probably run a 2k x 2k FOV that would produce 1k x 1k images of the 109" x 109" FOV. SOT has in the past provided multi-hour continuous stretches of observations for coordinated observing, although at present we are in eclipse season and the longest uninterrupted observations are only about an hour. By August we'll be out of eclipse though and we should be able to accommodate your request. The next step is for you to submit a proposal to me which I will present to the Science Scheduling Coordinators meeting in June. Your proposal should include a brief science justification followed by specific observing requirements for the Hinode instruments. I've attached a Latex template for making Hinode observing proposals. This is only a guideline so feel free to develop your own proposal outline if this one doesn't fit. Cheers, Tom --Apple-Mail-9--309785633 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-creator=454D4178; name=sample_observing_proposal.tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=sample_observing_proposal.tex \documentclass[11pt]{article} \begin{document} \title{Proposal for Hinode/XXX Joint Observing Campaign} \author{J. O. E. Observer} \maketitle \section{Science objectives} \section{Campaign Outline} \subsection{Dates and Times} \subsection{Participating Instruments} \subsection{Observing Program} \subsubsection{Targeting} \subsubsection{Duration} \subsubsection{Hinode Observations} \begin{enumerate} \item{SOT} \begin{itemize} \item BFI \item NFI \item SP \end{itemize} \item{XRT} \item{EIS} \end{enumerate} \subsubsection{XXX Observations} \subsubsection{Data Analysis Requirements} \end{document} --Apple-Mail-9--309785633 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On May 22, 2007, at 5:23 AM, Jan Rybak wrote: > > > Dear Dr. Berger, > > I apologize for my disturbing you for a moment but I would like to ask > you some questions as the SOT SSC. > > Our group was granted by the DOT/LaPalma observing time in August 2007 > (campaign web page with the proposal text is available at > http://www.astro.sk/~choc/open/07_dot/07_dot.html). > > We have already prepared and submitted a SOHO JOP proposal but it is > clear that after Aug 17 there will be no SOHO support available due to > the SOHO keyhole limitations. > > Therefore, we work currently on a proposal for Hinode/EIS+SOT+XRT > support > of our g-b observations (or vice versa) for which we would like to > apply > (observing time since Aug 18). > > Concerning the SOT part I would like to ask the following questions > in advance. > Our idea is to operate SOT for few hours taking series of exposures > like > > - channels: BFI: G-band, Ca II H; NFI Fe I 630.25nm longitudinal > magnetograms > - FOV: 1k x 2k (54" x 109") > - 12bit DPCM lossless data compression > - cadence: ~20s per filtergram (~60s per the sequence) > - time of day : 08:00-13:00 UT > > Using data given at the SOT web page it seems that such program > would provide > ~800 kbps what is much more than the average data rate of only > 300kbps. > This leads to just ~7000s of observations for one run. > > Questions: - is this calculation correct? > - can be the sequence (G-band, Ca II H, Fe I 630.25nm > long. magnetograms) > performed for several hours in such a run > - is an alternative of ~3 bits/pixel the JPEG algorithm > reasonable > (it gives ~5hours we in fact need) or is it really to > much > - is it possible to ask for such time of runs - 5hours > of data acqusition > + downlik after it > > You surely understand that we would like to keep all Hinode > instruments observing > for the mentioned interval when we can expect better seeing > conditions at LaPalma. > On the other hand we do not want to decrease cadence of filtergrams > or number > of the selected channels. Therefore we would like to know your > advice how to > handle this problem in an optimum way if possible. > > With many thanks beforehand > > Jan Rybak > > TL, 22/5/07 > > ********************************************************************** > **** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 > secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 > 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : > choc@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/ > ~choc * > * Slovak > Republic * > ********************************************************************** > **** > --Apple-Mail-9--309785633-- From berger@lmsal.com Mon Jun 4 20:27:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from lmsal.com (mail.lmsal.com [198.116.7.6]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l54KQQZ1029173 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:27:17 GMT Received: from [198.116.7.226] (account berger [198.116.7.226] verified) by lmsal.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.11) with ESMTPA id 6754509 for choc@ta3.sk; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:26:25 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200705311119.l4VBJqmO016941@auriga.ta3.sk> References: <200705311119.l4VBJqmO016941@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Berger Subject: Re: Rybak - SOT proposal Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 13:34:15 -0700 To: Jan Rybak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 Status: ROr Jan, Thank you for submitting the proposal. It will be discussed during the June SSC meeting. We will strive to schedule your request during the period of something like 15-31 August. I must remind you that in the case of a major flaring active region on the disk, SOT reserves the right to forgo any quiet Sun/network observations that may have been previously scheduled. But other than that restriction, we should be able to coordinate with the DOT during the above dates. Cheers, Tom On May 31, 2007, at 4:19 AM, Jan Rybak wrote: > > Dear Dr. Berger, > > many thanks for your previous answer helping me to prepare the SOT > part of our > Hinode proposal. > > Finally our proposal is ready. I send to you the PDF file of our > proposal > and the simple summary of the SOT requirements we have specified in > the proposal. > > I will send the corresponding information also to other SSCs (EIS - > Dr. Cilhane, > XRT - Dr. Golub), and to the CC J. Davis. > > I hope the enclosed files will give you all relevant information > you need > to consider our application. In case of any question please contact > me via email > (choc@astro.sk). > > We ask for almost 2 weeks of the Hinode support during morning UT > time when > seeing conditions for DOT at La Palma are the most favorable. We > understand that > there are many other applications appearing so we probably will get > much less > that we ask for. Nevertheless we hope you and your colleagues will > find our proposal > interesting and we will get some Hinode support. It is especially > crucial > for us after Aug 17 when SOHO keyhole start and therefore there is > no change > to get CDS or MDI support. > > With many thanks beforehand > > Jan Rybak > > TL, 31/5/07 > > PS: web page of our DOT campaign + SOHO JOP 189: > http://www.astro.sk/~choc/open/07_dot/07_dot.html > > ********************************************************************** > **** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 > secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 > 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : > choc@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/ > ~choc * > * Slovak > Republic * > ********************************************************************** > **** > > From tarbell@lmsal.com Mon Aug 6 07:41:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Received: from lmsal.com (mail.lmsal.com [198.116.7.6]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l767ee0C031955 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 07:41:31 GMT Received: from [133.74.8.195] (account tarbell@lmsal.com) by lmsal.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1.10) with HTTP id 7282956; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:40:39 -0700 From: "Ted Tarbell" Subject: Re: [sot_co:01690] sot_co: request for target information To: sot_co@solar.isas.jaxa.jp, choc@auriga.ta3.sk (Jan Rybak), gomory@astro.sk (Peter Gomory), asv@IGAM06WS.kfunigraz.ac.at (Astrid Veronig), manuela.temmer@uni-graz.at (Manuela Temmer), sigrid.stoiser@stud.uni-graz.at (Sigrid Stoiser) X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1.10 Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:40:39 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200708060658.l766whHS029477@auriga.ta3.sk> References: <200708060658.l766whHS029477@auriga.ta3.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8;format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: ROr Hello, Actually there is a web page which has the Hinode pointing (which is the center of the SOT FOV) as soon as it decided in the daily meeting. See the Hinode Daily Events page at, for example: http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/solar/hinode_op/hinode_daily_events.php?date=20070806 Every day except Sunday, the bottom of this page has a link to the pointing file, if the pointing has been selected yet. Today's file is: http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/solar/hinode_op/cmdpln/20070806/re-point_200708068000.txt In this file, the column of coordinates below "/* Memory upload :" show the pointing coordinates at the start of each pointing. If the tracking number is 0, then pointing is fixed at these coordinates; if it is 1-4, then the pointing will continuously follow solar rotation. You can also find a pointing file now for Tuesday 20070807. These coordinates were chosen this morning, but they may be modified in the daily meeting Tu morning at 01:30 UT. Usually any such last minute modifications are fine tuning in the same target region. Each pointing file ends with 24 hours pointing at disk center called the backup plan; ignore this, it will only take effect if the next day's plan can't be uplinked for some reason. Good luck, Ted Tarbell On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 06:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Jan Rybak wrote: > > Dear SOT Chief Observer, > > I apologize for disturbing you for a moment. > > Currently, I am a leader of the currently running SOHO JOP189 with >support of the TRACE, > DOT/LaPalma and other istruments. > > I would like to ask just to inform me (as soon as possible) when >SOT/Hinode decision is made > about the actual pointing of Hinode for individual days of this >week. Or is only the web page > http://solar-b.nao.ac.jp/operation_e/thisweek_e/ the latest >information available? > > My contact is: rybak@astro.sk > > Your cooperation would help us very much to coordinate our >observations using the DOT, TRACE, > SOHO/CDS,MDI with the Hinode data acquisition. > > With best wishes and many thanks for your answer beforehand > > Jan Rybak, on behalf of the JOP189 team > > TL, 07/08/2007 > > ************************************************************************** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 >secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 > * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk > * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc > * > * Slovak Republic > * > ************************************************************************** > Dr. Ted Tarbell tarbell@lmsal.com Lockheed Martin Solar & Astrophysics Laboratory phone: (650) 424-4033 fax: (650) 424-3994