From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Fri Jun 8 09:05:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5894Cri021514 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:05:03 GMT Received: from mssla3.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssla3.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.70.32]) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l588xTiH010689 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:59:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:58:57 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <07060809585777@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> From: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk (Len Culhane) To: choc@ta3.sk Subject: Re: Rybak - Hinode/EIS proposal - question X-VMS-To: SMTP%"choc@ta3.sk" X-VMS-Cc: JLC X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: RO Bad email - will reply in more detail later Len Culhane Prof. J. L. Culhane Tel: +44 (0)1483 274111 Solar and Stellar Physics Group Fax: +44 (0)1483 278312 Mullard Space Science Laboratory email: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Holmbury St. Mary Dorking, Surrey RH5 6NT, UK From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Mon Jun 11 13:53:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.164]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5BDqdEW011100 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:53:29 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (msslgx.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.70.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5BDqLil008584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:52:21 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Cc: "Thomas Berger" , , Subject: RE: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:52:26 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <004501c7ac2f$bf2dd200$d4462880@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <200706110549.l5B5nFFn011997@auriga.ta3.sk> Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acer7FIEWp18DxcUQSqOARuXGm4D0QAQS1Uw X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by auriga.ta3.sk id l5BDqdEW011100 X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 110 Status: ROr Dear Jan, My recent brief reply - which you may not have received, was due to email difficulties last week at MSSL. You will see from the present reply that I have received your message and can now read it. I will present your suggestion for joint Hinode/DOT observations at the next meeting of Hinode SSCs on 19 June. If supported at that meeting, final ratification will be needed at the Hinode monthly planning meeting on 27th June. If the observation can go ahead, we will validate your EIS studies and be in touch with you if there are any difficulties. It is important that you consider 1. Which of the instrument SSCs you would like to handle your proposal up to close to observation time - namely will your involvement be mainly with the EIS, SOT or XRT instruments and 2. What are the precise beginning and end dates and times of your La Palma DOT time - this is most important. With apologise for delayed reply. Regards Len Culhane -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 11 June 2007 06:49 To: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Cc: Jan Rybak Subject: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. Dear Dr. Culhane, this is a repetition of the email sent originally to your personal address but I have got a negative answer on its existence. So for any case I sent it again. Jan Rybak 11/6/07 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dear Dr. Culhane, many thanks for your previous answer helping me to prepare the EIS part of our Hinode proposal. Finally our proposal is ready. I send to you all relevant EIS parts - filled template, DEF file of the study, and proposal (PDF). For other SSCs (SOT - Dr. Berger, XRT - Dr. Golub), and for the CC J. Davis I will send just PDF file of the proposal. I hope the enclosed files will give you all relevant information you need to consider our application. In case of any question please contact me via email (choc@astro.sk). We ask for almost 2 weeks of the Hinode support during morning UT time when seeing conditions for DOT at La Palma are the most favorable. We understand that there are many other applications appearing so we probably will get much less that we ask for. Nevertheless we hope you and your colleagues will find our proposal interesting and we will get some Hinode support. It is especially crucial for us after Aug 17 when SOHO keyhole start and therefore there is no change to get CDS or MDI support. With many thanks beforehand Jan Rybak TL, 31/5/07 PS: web page of our DOT campaign + SOHO JOP 189: http://www.astro.sk/~choc/open/07_dot/07_dot.html ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * ************************************************************************** From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu May 17 14:24:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4HENCMs010547 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 14:24:02 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (msslgx.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.70.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4HEMn3B021001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:22:52 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Subject: RE: question how to submit an EIS proposal Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:22:56 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <002001c7988e$dec5ee40$d4462880@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <200705171355.l4HDtmOR006131@auriga.ta3.sk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AceYiyHmB/+ujgWZRJ2PTMqT29WdBgAAnnJA X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.2, clamav-milter version 0.90.2 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 Status: RO Dear Jan, Good if you could directly fill out the template. You will in any case need to make all these choices when you are designing a study using the EIS planning tool. Since you have already developed a study for the SUMER campaign, this should not be a problem. In addressing the Science Case heading, it is important to indicate what associated observations you would like from SOT and XRT. Also good to be specific about your ground-based time - dates and UT intervals. Send the completed document and the .def file for the study either directly to me or to eis_obs@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Regards and best wishes Len -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 17 May 2007 14:56 To: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Cc: Jan Rybak Subject: question how to submit an EIS proposal Dear dr. Culhane, sorry for disturbing you for a moment, just one question. I would like just to ask you which is the best way to apply for the EIS obsevation time. Should I follow description given at the HINODE page (solar-b.mao.jp/operation/proposaal_e/proposal_e.shtml) or should I fill directly the template given at http://www.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/www_solar/solarB/e-mail_template.txt ? We have already had two EIT runs within the Hinode-SOHO campaign on April 12 and 14, 2007. But now, we have got the DOT/LaPalma observing time for August 2007. Therefore it wotld be nice to have some days within the second half of August with EIS again... With many thanks beforehand for your answer Jan Rybak ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * ************************************************************************** From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu May 17 14:24:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4HENCMs010547 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 14:24:02 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (msslgx.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.70.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4HEMn3B021001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:22:52 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Subject: RE: question how to submit an EIS proposal Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:22:56 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <002001c7988e$dec5ee40$d4462880@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <200705171355.l4HDtmOR006131@auriga.ta3.sk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AceYiyHmB/+ujgWZRJ2PTMqT29WdBgAAnnJA X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.2, clamav-milter version 0.90.2 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 Status: RO Dear Jan, Good if you could directly fill out the template. You will in any case need to make all these choices when you are designing a study using the EIS planning tool. Since you have already developed a study for the SUMER campaign, this should not be a problem. In addressing the Science Case heading, it is important to indicate what associated observations you would like from SOT and XRT. Also good to be specific about your ground-based time - dates and UT intervals. Send the completed document and the .def file for the study either directly to me or to eis_obs@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Regards and best wishes Len -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 17 May 2007 14:56 To: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Cc: Jan Rybak Subject: question how to submit an EIS proposal Dear dr. Culhane, sorry for disturbing you for a moment, just one question. I would like just to ask you which is the best way to apply for the EIS obsevation time. Should I follow description given at the HINODE page (solar-b.mao.jp/operation/proposaal_e/proposal_e.shtml) or should I fill directly the template given at http://www.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/www_solar/solarB/e-mail_template.txt ? We have already had two EIT runs within the Hinode-SOHO campaign on April 12 and 14, 2007. But now, we have got the DOT/LaPalma observing time for August 2007. Therefore it wotld be nice to have some days within the second half of August with EIS again... With many thanks beforehand for your answer Jan Rybak ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * ************************************************************************** From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu Jun 21 09:11:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5L9AXN1024350 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:11:24 GMT Received: from [128.40.71.151] (msslf8.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.151]) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5L9ALlq004616; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:10:21 +0100 Message-ID: <467A4071.1060408@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:10:09 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Culhane CC: "'Jan Rybak'" Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <000301c7b38f$5782e5c0$1203470a@MSSLGX> In-Reply-To: <000301c7b38f$5782e5c0$1203470a@MSSLGX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 Status: ROr Dear Jan, I will contact you with some comments about your study sometimes next week. Regards, Khalid Len Culhane wrote: > Dear Jan, > > I note that a complete study with EIS requires a total of 8h 29m to run. I > may have missed this but can you say specifically how often you wish to run > this study and under what conditions in the period 18-31/08/07 when you > request Hinode support. > > Since there are many campaign requests for operations with Hinode in August, > the July SSC meeting on 17/18 July and the following monthly meeting about > one week later will need to schedule these quite carefully and may not be > able to accommodate all of the requests. So I was asked at the SSC meeting > teleconference yesterday to clarify the nature and detailed timing of your > campaign. > > Also I understand that Khalid has contacted you about the details of your > study. It would be good if you could respond to him soon since we will have > periods in July and August when the simulator will be fully occupied with > the testing of new code for upload to the instrument during August. Khalid > will be in Japan for the upload which will mean that he will also be unable > to do study validation work during a part of August. He will shortly > circulate the schedule for this work. > > It would be good therefore if we could simplify your study and seek a > validated version in time for your campaign. > > Regards > > Len > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] > Sent: 11 June 2007 06:49 > To: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk > Cc: Jan Rybak > Subject: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. > > Dear Dr. Culhane, > > this is a repetition of the email sent originally to your personal address > but I have got a negative answer on its existence. So for any case I sent > it again. > > Jan Rybak > > 11/6/07 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Dear Dr. Culhane, > > many thanks for your previous answer helping me to prepare the EIS part of > our > Hinode proposal. > > Finally our proposal is ready. I send to you all relevant EIS parts - > filled template, DEF file of the study, and proposal (PDF). For other SSCs > (SOT - Dr. Berger, XRT - Dr. Golub), and for the CC J. Davis I will send > just > PDF file of the proposal. > > I hope the enclosed files will give you all relevant information you need > to consider our application. In case of any question please contact me via > email > (choc@astro.sk). > > We ask for almost 2 weeks of the Hinode support during morning UT time when > seeing conditions for DOT at La Palma are the most favorable. We understand > that > there are many other applications appearing so we probably will get much > less > that we ask for. Nevertheless we hope you and your colleagues will find our > proposal > interesting and we will get some Hinode support. It is especially crucial > for us after Aug 17 when SOHO keyhole start and therefore there is no change > to get CDS or MDI support. > > With many thanks beforehand > > Jan Rybak > > TL, 31/5/07 > > PS: web page of our DOT campaign + SOHO JOP 189: > http://www.astro.sk/~choc/open/07_dot/07_dot.html > > ************************************************************************** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * > * Slovak Republic * > ************************************************************************** > > From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Wed Jun 20 23:05:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.9 (2007-02-13) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.9 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5KN4OvV028633 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:05:14 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (host217-36-35-145.in-addr.btopenworld.com [217.36.35.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5KN4Aex000384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:04:10 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Cc: Subject: RE: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:04:22 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <000301c7b38f$5782e5c0$1203470a@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: Acer7FIEWp18DxcUQSqOARuXGm4D0QHoDl4g Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200706110549.l5B5nFFn011997@auriga.ta3.sk> X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.8, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90, RCVD_IN_SORBS 0.10) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by auriga.ta3.sk id l5KN4OvV028633 X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 Status: ROr Dear Jan, I note that a complete study with EIS requires a total of 8h 29m to run. I may have missed this but can you say specifically how often you wish to run this study and under what conditions in the period 18-31/08/07 when you request Hinode support. Since there are many campaign requests for operations with Hinode in August, the July SSC meeting on 17/18 July and the following monthly meeting about one week later will need to schedule these quite carefully and may not be able to accommodate all of the requests. So I was asked at the SSC meeting teleconference yesterday to clarify the nature and detailed timing of your campaign. Also I understand that Khalid has contacted you about the details of your study. It would be good if you could respond to him soon since we will have periods in July and August when the simulator will be fully occupied with the testing of new code for upload to the instrument during August. Khalid will be in Japan for the upload which will mean that he will also be unable to do study validation work during a part of August. He will shortly circulate the schedule for this work. It would be good therefore if we could simplify your study and seek a validated version in time for your campaign. Regards Len -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 11 June 2007 06:49 To: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Cc: Jan Rybak Subject: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. Dear Dr. Culhane, this is a repetition of the email sent originally to your personal address but I have got a negative answer on its existence. So for any case I sent it again. Jan Rybak 11/6/07 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dear Dr. Culhane, many thanks for your previous answer helping me to prepare the EIS part of our Hinode proposal. Finally our proposal is ready. I send to you all relevant EIS parts - filled template, DEF file of the study, and proposal (PDF). For other SSCs (SOT - Dr. Berger, XRT - Dr. Golub), and for the CC J. Davis I will send just PDF file of the proposal. I hope the enclosed files will give you all relevant information you need to consider our application. In case of any question please contact me via email (choc@astro.sk). We ask for almost 2 weeks of the Hinode support during morning UT time when seeing conditions for DOT at La Palma are the most favorable. We understand that there are many other applications appearing so we probably will get much less that we ask for. Nevertheless we hope you and your colleagues will find our proposal interesting and we will get some Hinode support. It is especially crucial for us after Aug 17 when SOHO keyhole start and therefore there is no change to get CDS or MDI support. With many thanks beforehand Jan Rybak TL, 31/5/07 PS: web page of our DOT campaign + SOHO JOP 189: http://www.astro.sk/~choc/open/07_dot/07_dot.html ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * ************************************************************************** From choc@ta3.sk Fri Jul 6 08:28:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.1 Received: from auriga.ta3.sk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l668SJ4W026424 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:28:19 GMT Received: (from choc@localhost) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l668SJ6p026423 for choc; Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:28:19 GMT Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l64Hl5UR024540 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:47:56 GMT Received: from [128.40.71.151] (msslf8.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.151]) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l64Hkse1022442; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:46:54 +0100 Message-ID: <468BDD27.1070700@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:47:19 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'Jan Rybak'" CC: Len Culhane Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <000301c7b38f$5782e5c0$1203470a@MSSLGX> In-Reply-To: <000301c7b38f$5782e5c0$1203470a@MSSLGX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: choc@ta3.sk X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 Status: ROr Dear Jan, Following are my thoughts about your study which are related to: 1) Operations 2) Structure As far as point 1, I have consulted our chief observers (CO) in Japan, and I got the following reply in response to my question about running 8h 29m study in connection with Hinode SYNOPTIC studies (sun disk pointing), and I quote: David Brooks comment: "Another point is that it lasts 8 hours. Currently there is *no* possibility of running this study without it being interrupted by XRT synoptic repointing to disk centre." From what I can gather from one of your emails to Len (copied to me) is that you are willing to reduce the study run-time, which is a *must* now. Point 2 (study structure) is a little bit more complex: Your proposal/study structure: ------------------------------ 1. Context_calib_jr ( 3 times) - 3x8m31s (25.m in total) 2. Obs_sit_stare_jr (12 times) - 12x28m3s (5.61h in total) slit placed to the X-center of the previous raster 3. Context_calib_jr ( 3 times) - 3x8m31s (25.m in total) My suggestion: -------------- Break down the study into two studies (two .def files): 1) Context_calib study. *One* raster study (RA:000031) 2) Obs_sit_stare study. *One* raster study (RA:000032) These studies can be used by planners as follows: 1) Put Context_calib_jr on the time line 2) put Obs_sit_stare study on the time line and point to X 3) put Obs_sit_stare study on the time line and point to X center of previous raster. .. Perform 3 as many times as time allows 4) Put Context_calib_jr on the time line (end of study context) This gives the flexibility of shortening and lengthening the study run time as time permiting (controlled by the number of Obs_sit_stare study instances). Question: Dose it matter how many Obs_sit_stare study runs per day (say 8 today, 10 tomorrow, 9 the day after .. etc) or you would like to run the same number every day through out the campaign? Before you do any thing yet, I would like you to think about my suggestion and come back to me. Changes (or not) should be performed once they are agreed. Please do not hesitate in asking questions. Regards, Khalid Len Culhane wrote: > Dear Jan, > > I note that a complete study with EIS requires a total of 8h 29m to run. I > may have missed this but can you say specifically how often you wish to run > this study and under what conditions in the period 18-31/08/07 when you > request Hinode support. > > Since there are many campaign requests for operations with Hinode in August, > the July SSC meeting on 17/18 July and the following monthly meeting about > one week later will need to schedule these quite carefully and may not be > able to accommodate all of the requests. So I was asked at the SSC meeting > teleconference yesterday to clarify the nature and detailed timing of your > campaign. > > Also I understand that Khalid has contacted you about the details of your > study. It would be good if you could respond to him soon since we will have > periods in July and August when the simulator will be fully occupied with > the testing of new code for upload to the instrument during August. Khalid > will be in Japan for the upload which will mean that he will also be unable > to do study validation work during a part of August. He will shortly > circulate the schedule for this work. > > It would be good therefore if we could simplify your study and seek a > validated version in time for your campaign. > > Regards > > Len From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Tue Jul 17 14:29:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6HET3Rl014486 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:29:51 GMT Received: from [128.40.71.151] (msslf8.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.151]) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6HERoSV020701; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:27:50 +0100 Message-ID: <469CD1F5.7050309@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:28:05 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rybak CC: Jan Rybak , Peter Gomory Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <200707061205.l66C5wdk008601@auriga.ta3.sk> In-Reply-To: <200707061205.l66C5wdk008601@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: O Hi Jan, My apology for not being able to respond to you earlier, which was caused by some pressing engineering activities on EIS. Could you please clarify this/confirm my understanding of the following: > JUST ONE POINT IS IMPORTANT: all runs of Context_calib_jr and Obs_sit_stare > should be pointed to the same position X meaning that the Obs_sit_stare > (1D slit fixed position) will be placed to the X-axis center of the > Context_calib_jr. (We want to see the context around the 1D fixed slit > position of the Obs_sit_stare before and after the run of several > Obs_sit_stare studies in a sequence. are you implying that the context raster (scan, 2" slit, 20 exposures) (total of 40") will run with the same pointing, i.e. Context 1 |---------------------| Context 2 |---------------------| Also, do you want all the sit and stare rasters - SNS - (2" slit, 35 exposure) to run at the center of the context (slit position 10 of the context scan), i.e. N * Context |---------------------| N * SNS | N * Context |---------------------| As for your other comment: > NO, THIS DOES NOT MATTER. On the other hand please consider that > preferentially we ask for TIMING 08:00-12:00 UT for each run. > This is the very narrow interval with the highest DOT/LaPalma best > seeing chance. Then I need to check a couple of points with our people in Japan and get back to you. Regards, Khalid Jan Rybak wrote: > Dear Khalid, > > thanks a lot for your email explaining the details and providing > your suggestions. I shall reply directly to your text: > >> Following are my thoughts about your study which are related to: >> >> 1) Operations >> 2) Structure >> >> As far as point 1, I have consulted our chief observers (CO) in Japan, >> and I got the following reply in response to my question about running >> 8h 29m study in connection with Hinode SYNOPTIC studies (sun disk >> pointing), and I quote: >> >> David Brooks comment: >> >> "Another point is that it lasts 8 hours. Currently there is *no* >> possibility of running this study without it being interrupted by XRT >> synoptic repointing to disk centre." >> >> From what I can gather from one of your emails to Len (copied to me) is >> that you are willing to reduce the study run-time, which is a *must* now. >> > > NO PROBLEM. As I already metioned to Len Culhane, our runs can be shortened > (email sent to him on Jun 22 is enclosed below). > >> Point 2 (study structure) is a little bit more complex: >> >> Your proposal/study structure: >> ------------------------------ >> >> 1. Context_calib_jr ( 3 times) - 3x8m31s (25.m in total) >> 2. Obs_sit_stare_jr (12 times) - 12x28m3s (5.61h in total) >> slit placed to the X-center of the previous raster >> 3. Context_calib_jr ( 3 times) - 3x8m31s (25.m in total) >> >> My suggestion: >> -------------- >> >> Break down the study into two studies (two .def files): >> >> 1) Context_calib study. *One* raster study (RA:000031) >> 2) Obs_sit_stare study. *One* raster study (RA:000032) >> >> These studies can be used by planners as follows: >> >> 1) Put Context_calib_jr on the time line >> >> 2) put Obs_sit_stare study on the time line and point to X >> 3) put Obs_sit_stare study on the time line and point to X center of >> previous raster. >> .. Perform 3 as many times as time allows >> >> 4) Put Context_calib_jr on the time line (end of study context) >> >> This gives the flexibility of shortening and lengthening the study run >> time as time permiting (controlled by the number of Obs_sit_stare study >> instances). > > WE COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR SUGGESTION. > > JUST ONE POINT IS IMPORTANT: all runs of Context_calib_jr and Obs_sit_stare > should be pointed to the same position X meaning that the Obs_sit_stare > (1D slit fixed position) will be placed to the X-axis center of the > Context_calib_jr. (We want to see the context around the 1D fixed slit > position of the Obs_sit_stare before and after the run of several > Obs_sit_stare studies in a sequence. > >> Question: Dose it matter how many Obs_sit_stare study runs per day (say >> 8 today, 10 tomorrow, 9 the day after .. etc) or you would like to run >> the same number every day through out the campaign? > > NO, THIS DOES NOT MATTER. On the other hand pleasde consider that > preferentially we ask for TIMING 08:00-12:00 UT for each run. > This is the very narrow interval with the highest DOT/LaPalma best seeing chance. > > On the other hand we ask AS HIGH NUMBER OF DAYS AS POSSIBLE scheduled for our > program in the period Aug 18-31. Reason is clear: weather & seeing conditions > at La Palma are variable from day to day: more days give higher change > to acquire very good DOT data. > >> Before you do any thing yet, I would like you to think about my >> suggestion and come back to me. Changes (or not) should be performed >> once they are agreed. > > I hope we have answered all your specified questions. We are looking forward to > her your reply. > > Jan Rybak > > TL, 6/7/07 > > ************************************************************************** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * > * Slovak Republic * > ************************************************************************** > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. > To: jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk (Len Culhane) > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:17:22 +0000 (UTC) > Cc: kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk, choc@auriga.ta3.sk (Jan Rybak), > gomory@astro.sk (Peter Gomory) > X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost > X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) > X-Virus-Status: Clean > > > Dear Len, > > thanks a lot for your email explaining problems you have encountered > preparing the Hinode plan for August. We shall try to help a little bit. > Here follow our answers/suggestions to make situation a little bit easier: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ANSWERS: > >> I note that a complete study with EIS requires a total of 8h 29m to run. I >> may have missed this but can you say specifically how often you wish to run >> this study and under what conditions in the period 18-31/08/07 when you >> request Hinode support. >> >> Since there are many campaign requests for operations with Hinode in August, >> the July SSC meeting on 17/18 July and the following monthly meeting about >> one week later will need to schedule these quite carefully and may not be >> able to accommodate all of the requests. So I was asked at the SSC meeting >> teleconference yesterday to clarify the nature and detailed timing of your >> campaign. > > Nature of the campaign: EIS spectroscopy supported by the SOT imaging > and magnetograms and XRT imaging; all invented to support our DOT/LaPalma > imaging tomography (with H alpha Doppler imaging). EIS spectroscopy is > essential to reach the goals of the proposal. > > Timing of the campaign: originally time interval 07:00-13:30 was selected to > cover the period of the day with the high change of good LaPalma seeing, > period Aug 18-31 was selected as for this time no SOHO support is possible > and we have the DOT time granted. > >> Also I understand that Khalid has contacted you about the details of your >> study. It would be good if you could respond to him soon since we will have >> periods in July and August when the simulator will be fully occupied with >> the testing of new code for upload to the instrument during August. Khalid >> will be in Japan for the upload which will mean that he will also be unable >> to do study validation work during a part of August. He will shortly >> circulate the schedule for this work. > > Khalid has sent me a message that he will contact me with details only next week. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SUGGESTION: > >> It would be good therefore if we could simplify your study and seek a >> validated version in time for your campaign. > > To make the problem easier we are open TO SIMPLIFY AND SHORTEN our study > in the following way: > > 1/ TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF THE CONTEXT RASTERS which start and end our EIS > program from 3 to just 1 > 2/ TO SHORTEN THE MAIN PART OF THE PROGRAM (sit-and-stare mode) considerably > from 12 to just 8 repetitions > > Then the schedule and timing of our study would be the following: > > 1. Context_calib_jr ( 1 times) - 1 x 8m31s (8.5min in total) > 2. Obs_sit_stare_jr ( 8 times) - 8 x 28m3s (224.5min in total) > slit placed to the X-center of the previous raster > 3. Context_calib_jr ( 1 times) - 1 x 8m31s (8.5min in total) > raster positioned around the previous slit position > > The new total program length is so only 4 hours. > > Preferentially we ask for TIMING 08:00-12:00 UT for such run. This is the narrow > interval with the highest DOT best seeing chance. > > On the other hand we ask AS HIGH NUMBER OF DAYS AS POSSIBLE scheduled for our > program in the period Aug 18-31. Reason is clear: weather & seeing conditions > at La Palma are variable from day to day: more days give higher change > to acquire very good DOT data. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Finally, we do hope that also other groups proposing conflicting proposals for > August will be open to find a compromise in a way we have tried to suggest. > In such case your decision should be easier to make. > > Additionally we are ready to cooperate with other groups asking for Hinode > for the Canary Islands best timing - we are already in contact with Mike Marsh. > > We stay tuned to answer your or Khalid's questions during the next week to prepare > a validated version in time for our campaign. We do hope out suggestions will > to find Hinode time for our campaign. > > With best wishes and many thanks beforehand > > Jan Rybak > > TL, 22/6/07 > > ************************************************************************** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * > * Slovak Republic * > ************************************************************************** From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Tue Jul 17 16:05:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6HG4oGW021307 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:05:40 GMT Received: from [128.40.71.151] (msslf8.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.151]) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6HG4bpZ031608; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:04:38 +0100 Message-ID: <469CE8A5.4090509@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:04:53 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rybak CC: Jan Rybak Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <200707171454.l6HEsl9U016848@auriga.ta3.sk> In-Reply-To: <200707171454.l6HEsl9U016848@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: RO Dear Jan, Thank you for your prompt response. I am still waiting to hear from our guys in Japan (hopefully tomorrow) about the 8-12 UT run, which I hope will resolve all the issues. In the mean time: There is one functionality of EIS that can be used in cases like these and they are called "raster repeats". When you use 1 (1 instance), you get the following: Context |---------------------| And when you use 2 (2 instances), you get the following: Context |---------------------| Context |---------------------| In this way you don't have to put the study rasters sequentially in the study, but create one raster and put raster repeat to 2. So your study can be realized using 3 rasters only: Context (repeat = 3) |---------------------| SNS (repeat = 12) | Context (repeat = 3) |---------------------| This applies to scanning and sit stare rasters. Please fell free to ask questions. This may apply to your original design of the study, but the 8-12 UT may require different handling (simple). Regards, Khalid From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu Jul 19 16:27:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.1 Received: from msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.164]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6JGQl2R012678 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:27:34 GMT Received: from [128.40.71.151] (msslf8.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.151]) by msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6JGPQq1017645; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:25:26 +0100 Message-ID: <469F9083.7030104@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:25:39 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rybak CC: Jan Rybak , Peter Gomory Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <200707171454.l6HEsl9U016848@auriga.ta3.sk> In-Reply-To: <200707171454.l6HEsl9U016848@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 Status: RO Dear Jan, I am clear about how your study should be modified/handled. However there is one issue about the study use that need to be clarified: Jan Rybak wrote: >> > On the other hand please consider that >> > preferentially we ask for TIMING 08:00-12:00 UT for each run. >> > This is the very narrow interval with the highest DOT/LaPalma best >> > seeing chance. >> >> Then I need to check a couple of points with our people in Japan and get >> back to you. >> > > WE STAY TUNED FRO YOUR NEXT EMAILS. Please note that Hinode uplink contacts are between 8-11UT (three contacts): First contact (~8 UT): S/C uplink (EIS operations are unaffected) Second contact (~9:30 UT): EIS observation table upload (science stopped for ~15 minutes) Third contact (~ 11:00): XRT/SOT uplink continuation (EIS operations are unaffected) So to run your study: 1) Run context (~8 UT) 2) Run SNS * N times 3) Stop for ~15 minutes (~9:30 UT) for EIS tables upload 4) Run SNS * M times 5) run context just before 12 UT 6) Stop at ~12 UT In another way, you will have a gap of approximately 15 minutes in your study run. Let me know whether this is acceptable to you. Regards, Khalid From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Wed Aug 1 07:14:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l717DoG2016490 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:14:35 GMT Received: from [133.74.8.236] ([133.74.8.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l717Ccnn012896 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Aug 2007 08:12:42 +0100 Message-ID: <46B03265.5050000@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:12:37 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi Organization: Mullard Space Science Laboratory User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rybak CC: Jan Rybak , Peter Gomory Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <200707200502.l6K52kZ0011360@auriga.ta3.sk> In-Reply-To: <200707200502.l6K52kZ0011360@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 161 Status: RO Dear Jan, I wonder whether you have noticed that your original 18 rasters study is broken down to two (context and SNS raster - as agreed) and already available on EIS DB. However, I have one thought that might interest you. Your observation can now be performed in two ways: 1) Context, SNS * stop for 15 minutes * SNS, context or 2) Context, SNS, Context *stop for 15 minutes* context, SNS, context With option 2 you can have two runs on either side of the 15 minutes stoppage. As for your comment: > Nevertheless, as this second gap is in time period of the highest chance > for good seeing for DOT it would be good to know the exact timing > of the second contact (~9:30 UT): is it 09:15-09:30 or 09:30-09:45 or other > position of the interval in time ? We can use exactly this period for > acquisition of the auxiliary data at DOT trying to overlap with EIS > as much as possible... I have spoken to our planners in Japan and they will attempt to email you the day before and let you know the stoppage time as accurate as available to them so you you can plan the auxiliary data acquisition. Regards, Khalid Jan Rybak wrote: > Dear Khalid, > > thanks for your information explaining the EIS limitations. > > This limitation is completely acceptable. > > Neverthelss, as this second gap is in time period of the highest chance > for good seeing for DOT it would be good to know the exact timing > of the second contact (~9:30 UT): is it 09:15-09:30 or 09:30-09:45 or other > position of the interval in time ? We can use exactly this period for > acquisition of the auxiliary data at DOT trying to overlap with EIS > as much as possible... > > In case of no aswer we will expect the gap is at ~09:20-09:40 UT. > > Again many thanks for your support of our campaign! > > With best wishes > > Jan R. > > TL, 20/07/2007 > > ************************************************************************** > * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * > * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * > * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * > * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * > * Slovak Republic * > ************************************************************************** > > >> Dear Jan, >> >> I am clear about how your study should be modified/handled. However >> there is one issue about the study use that need to be clarified: >> >> Jan Rybak wrote: >>>> > On the other hand please consider that >>>> > preferentially we ask for TIMING 08:00-12:00 UT for each run. >>>> > This is the very narrow interval with the highest DOT/LaPalma best >>>> > seeing chance. >>>> >>>> Then I need to check a couple of points with our people in Japan and get >>>> back to you. >>>> >>> WE STAY TUNED FRO YOUR NEXT EMAILS. >> Please note that Hinode uplink contacts are between 8-11UT (three contacts): >> >> First contact (~8 UT): S/C uplink (EIS operations are unaffected) >> Second contact (~9:30 UT): EIS observation table upload (science stopped >> for ~15 minutes) >> Third contact (~ 11:00): XRT/SOT uplink continuation (EIS operations are >> unaffected) >> >> So to run your study: >> >> 1) Run context (~8 UT) >> 2) Run SNS * N times >> 3) Stop for ~15 minutes (~9:30 UT) for EIS tables upload >> 4) Run SNS * M times >> 5) run context just before 12 UT >> 6) Stop at ~12 UT >> >> In another way, you will have a gap of approximately 15 minutes in your >> study run. >> >> Let me know whether this is acceptable to you. >> >> Regards, >> Khalid >> >> From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu Aug 2 09:21:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l729KsNW032333 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:21:49 GMT Received: from [133.74.8.236] ([133.74.8.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l729KDUh003195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:20:21 +0100 Message-ID: <46B1A1CA.2020703@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:20:10 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi Organization: Mullard Space Science Laboratory User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rybak CC: Jan Rybak Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <200708020740.l727egP4026075@auriga.ta3.sk> In-Reply-To: <200708020740.l727egP4026075@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: RO Dear Jan, Your email, Jan Rybak wrote: > Just a note: can you guide my where to enter the EIS DB? I have looked > around the EIS web page but I have not been successful... You can try: http://msslxr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk:8080/SolarB/EisStudyList.jsp I just had a look and I see 188 studies. I added some studies on the 29th and I cannot see them on the web site? This is supposed to auto mirror from EIS official DB. Unfortunately I am in Japan right now and I will attempt to get in touch with one of our engineers to check this. However, as you can make studies using EIS planning tool (I suppose), then you should see both the official database and the user database. Try eis_mk_study and you should see it on the official database (I cannot remember the position of the switch). > I will be tuned for the information on the stoppage time after Aug 17. OK However, I don't see your preference for my suggestion about the best way to run the study. >> I wonder whether you have noticed that your original 18 rasters study is >> broken down to two (context and SNS raster - as agreed) and already >> available on EIS DB. However, I have one thought that might interest >> you. Your observation can now be performed in two ways: >> >> 1) Context, SNS * stop for 15 minutes * SNS, context >> >> or >> >> 2) Context, SNS, Context *stop for 15 minutes* context, SNS, context >> >> With option 2 you can have two runs on either side of the 15 minutes >> stoppage. Regards, Khalid From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu Aug 2 10:56:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l72Au201005808 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:56:52 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (muckross.demon.co.uk [83.104.42.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l72Atibw022423 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:55:44 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: , , , Cc: "Thomas Berger" , "Tsuneta Saku" , "Tetsuya WATANABE" , "'Davis, John M. \(MSFC-VP62\)'" Subject: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:57:13 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <003a01c7d4f3$e3287790$0200a8c0@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C7D4FC.44ECDF90" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcfU8+FE7PaxeZU0TKyK2isws6haig== Importance: Normal X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.7, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90, HTML_50_60 0.10, HTML_MESSAGE 0.10) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Status: ROr This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C7D4FC.44ECDF90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003C_01C7D4FC.44ECDF90" ------=_NextPart_001_003C_01C7D4FC.44ECDF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Hinode Observing Programme Leaders, There were a number of conflicting requests for coordinated ground-based observations for the last three weeks of August. All four requested Hinode observations during prime daytime hours for Canary Island telescopes. At the recent Hinode Monthly Planning Meeting, the attached schedule was agreed and I was asked to distribute the details to you. Can you please contact the responsible Hinode team member for further information. During the actual observations, it will be important for you to be in contact with the appropriate Hinode instrument Chief Observers to agree final pointing details. Details of all HOPs are given at: http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/solar/hinode_op/hop_list.php Regards Len Culhane ------=_NextPart_001_003C_01C7D4FC.44ECDF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Hinode Observing Programme = Leaders,

 

There were a number of conflicting requests for = coordinated ground-based observations for the last three weeks of August. All four requested Hinode observations during prime daytime hours for = Canary Island telescopes.

 

At the recent Hinode Monthly Planning Meeting, the = attached schedule was agreed and I was asked to distribute the details to you. =

 

Can you please contact the responsible Hinode team = member for further information.

 

During the actual observations, it will be important = for you to be in contact with the appropriate Hinode instrument Chief Observers = to agree final pointing details.

 

Details of all HOPs are given at:

 

http:/= /www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/solar/hinode_op/hop_list.php

 

Regards

 

Len Culhane

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[128.40.71.164]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l72EbOr9020458 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:38:09 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (msslgx.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.70.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l72EaFKr019062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:36:15 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Cc: "'Jan Rybak'" , "'Jan Rybak'" , "'Peter Gomory'" , "'Astrid Veronig'" , "'Manuela Temmer'" , "'Sigrid Stoiser'" Subject: RE: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:37:44 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <000001c7d512$b06d4ff0$d4462880@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <200708021154.l72Bs8hO009429@auriga.ta3.sk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcfU+/N4lMN/UJz9SQ+zbFWc4GKpGQAFk17A Importance: Normal X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by auriga.ta3.sk id l72EbOr9020458 Status: RO Dear Jan, Thanks for your message. I will shortly send you the name of the EIS Chief Observer who will be running EIS during your observation. >From 13 August you should establish contact with him through email to eis_co@solar.isas.jaxa.jp. Always remember to put "eis_co:" in the subject line of any messages you send to eis_co. Until then you should continue to interact with me. What is the status of your study validation process with Khalid? Good if you can make contact with the other DOT groups who are also involved with Hinode. Regards Len -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 02 August 2007 12:54 To: Len Culhane Cc: Jan Rybak; Jan Rybak; Peter Gomory; Astrid Veronig; Manuela Temmer; Sigrid Stoiser Subject: Re: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Dear prof. Culhane, thanks a lot for sending us your email on Hinode observing schedule for August 2007. We are very obliged that our HOP020 was granted with 6 observing days. We do hope we will be able to acquire some good data sets with HINODE and DOT/LaPalma simultaneously. We are ready to consider to join with the DOT (at our disposal) following the targets selected by other group for the rest of the days. We do hope a lot can be done in August on this topic as we expect similar interests of the groups. Two proposal will use the SST so our local DOT observer, Peter Gomory, can be in close contact with these group also personally. With many thanks and best wishes Jan Rybak, on behalf of the DOT+SOHO189+HOP020 team TL, 02/08/2007 ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * ************************************************************************** From kfj@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu Aug 2 09:21:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l729KsNU032333 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:21:44 GMT Received: from [133.74.8.236] ([133.74.8.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l729KDUh003195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:20:21 +0100 Message-ID: <46B1A1CA.2020703@mssl.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:20:10 +0100 From: Khalid Al-Janabi Organization: Mullard Space Science Laboratory User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Rybak CC: Jan Rybak Subject: Re: EIS propsal - Rybak et al. References: <200708020740.l727egP4026075@auriga.ta3.sk> In-Reply-To: <200708020740.l727egP4026075@auriga.ta3.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 176 Status: ROr Dear Jan, Your email, Jan Rybak wrote: > Just a note: can you guide my where to enter the EIS DB? I have looked > around the EIS web page but I have not been successful... You can try: http://msslxr.mssl.ucl.ac.uk:8080/SolarB/EisStudyList.jsp I just had a look and I see 188 studies. I added some studies on the 29th and I cannot see them on the web site? This is supposed to auto mirror from EIS official DB. Unfortunately I am in Japan right now and I will attempt to get in touch with one of our engineers to check this. However, as you can make studies using EIS planning tool (I suppose), then you should see both the official database and the user database. Try eis_mk_study and you should see it on the official database (I cannot remember the position of the switch). > I will be tuned for the information on the stoppage time after Aug 17. OK However, I don't see your preference for my suggestion about the best way to run the study. >> I wonder whether you have noticed that your original 18 rasters study is >> broken down to two (context and SNS raster - as agreed) and already >> available on EIS DB. However, I have one thought that might interest >> you. Your observation can now be performed in two ways: >> >> 1) Context, SNS * stop for 15 minutes * SNS, context >> >> or >> >> 2) Context, SNS, Context *stop for 15 minutes* context, SNS, context >> >> With option 2 you can have two runs on either side of the 15 minutes >> stoppage. Regards, Khalid From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Thu Aug 2 14:38:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FH_MSGID_01C67 autolearn=no version=3.2.1 Received: from msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.164]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l72EbOrB020458 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:38:22 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (msslgx.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.70.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by msslty.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l72EaFKr019062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:36:15 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Cc: "'Jan Rybak'" , "'Jan Rybak'" , "'Peter Gomory'" , "'Astrid Veronig'" , "'Manuela Temmer'" , "'Sigrid Stoiser'" Subject: RE: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:37:44 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <000001c7d512$b06d4ff0$d4462880@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <200708021154.l72Bs8hO009429@auriga.ta3.sk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcfU+/N4lMN/UJz9SQ+zbFWc4GKpGQAFk17A Importance: Normal X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by auriga.ta3.sk id l72EbOrB020458 X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 182 Status: ROr Dear Jan, Thanks for your message. I will shortly send you the name of the EIS Chief Observer who will be running EIS during your observation. >From 13 August you should establish contact with him through email to eis_co@solar.isas.jaxa.jp. Always remember to put "eis_co:" in the subject line of any messages you send to eis_co. Until then you should continue to interact with me. What is the status of your study validation process with Khalid? Good if you can make contact with the other DOT groups who are also involved with Hinode. Regards Len -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 02 August 2007 12:54 To: Len Culhane Cc: Jan Rybak; Jan Rybak; Peter Gomory; Astrid Veronig; Manuela Temmer; Sigrid Stoiser Subject: Re: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Dear prof. Culhane, thanks a lot for sending us your email on Hinode observing schedule for August 2007. We are very obliged that our HOP020 was granted with 6 observing days. We do hope we will be able to acquire some good data sets with HINODE and DOT/LaPalma simultaneously. We are ready to consider to join with the DOT (at our disposal) following the targets selected by other group for the rest of the days. We do hope a lot can be done in August on this topic as we expect similar interests of the groups. Two proposal will use the SST so our local DOT observer, Peter Gomory, can be in close contact with these group also personally. With many thanks and best wishes Jan Rybak, on behalf of the DOT+SOHO189+HOP020 team TL, 02/08/2007 ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * ************************************************************************** From jlc@mssl.ucl.ac.uk Mon Aug 6 10:38:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on auriga.ta3.sk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 Received: from mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.71.165]) by auriga.ta3.sk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l76AbRjp013283 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:38:10 GMT Received: from MSSLGX (muckross.demon.co.uk [83.104.42.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by mssltz.mssl.ucl.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l76AZvSx012467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:36:03 +0100 From: "Len Culhane" To: "'Jan Rybak'" Cc: "'Jan Rybak'" , "'Jan Rybak'" , "'Peter Gomory'" , "'Astrid Veronig'" , "'Manuela Temmer'" , "'Sigrid Stoiser'" , "Tetsuya WATANABE" , "John Mariska" Subject: RE: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:36:02 +0100 Organization: Mullard Space Science Lab (UCL) Message-ID: <002201c7d815$994d95e0$0200a8c0@MSSLGX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcfVz7l4Sw3MWQDyT4KTmfaOxC4AsgCRWPgQ In-Reply-To: <200708031309.l73D9vOG022523@auriga.ta3.sk> X-MSSL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MSSL-MailScanner: No virus found X-MSSL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1, clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on localhost X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by auriga.ta3.sk id l76AbRjp013283 Status: RO Dear Jan, Sorry for delayed reply. In fact EIS will be undertaking core observations during the HOP 26 and HOP 21 observing intervals. Regards and best wishes Len -----Original Message----- From: Jan Rybak [mailto:choc@ta3.sk] Sent: 03 August 2007 14:10 To: Len Culhane Cc: Jan Rybak; Jan Rybak; Peter Gomory; Astrid Veronig; Manuela Temmer; Sigrid Stoiser Subject: Re: Hinode Observing Schedule for August Dear Len, sorry for disturbing you for a moment but reading in detail the HOPs for August I would like just to suggest how to exploit the August Hinode time in a better way without and change of the schedule: - HOP026 (Bloomfield) has got days 8/9-8/17, - this program has not asked for the EIS support, - their targets are very similar to our ones. Therefore, would it be possible to run EIS with our EIS program on these days? Of course in case we - HOP020 and 026 - will agree on usage of our EIS studies and on selecting the same target. (But maybe EIS is planning to run other studies independently from HOP021 program). In case your answer will be positive, I will try to suggest this arrangement (and our type of EIS studies) to Bloomfield and his HOP026 team. Only after our agreement will be made, we can realize this idea. I hope this strange ideas will not disappoint you. We are very happy with the Hinode days we were granted for August. This is just an idea to get more for both HOP026 and 020 groups without any change of the August Hinode schedule. With best wishes for the weekend Jan Rybak TL, 3/8/07 ************************************************************************** * Jan Rybak tel. : ++421 52 7879 156 (111 secretary) * * Astronomical Institute fax : ++421 52 4467 656 * * Slovak Academy of Sciences email : choc@astro.sk * * 05960 Tatranska Lomnica WWW : http://www.astro.sk/~choc * * Slovak Republic * **************************************************************************